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San Diego police raid and close medical marijuana dispensaries

September 9, 2009 - 2:29 pm

The San Diego Police Department and other county law-enforcement agencies are conducting a sweeping raid on marijuana dispensaries this afternoon. As of this writing, CityBeat has heard that Green Kross Collective, Total Care Collective, San Diego Discount Caregivers, Hillcrest Compassionate Care,  Downtown Kush lounge, Top Quality Collective, Medical Cannabis Providers, and Nature’s Rx Collective have been shut down (We will updates this list as we learn more) by the San Diego Police Department and their owners arrested if they were present. Sources tell CityBeat that the owners have been given 48 hours to provide proper paperwork for their shops, but Everything is very tentative at the moment.

Det. Gary Hassen, a spokesperson for the San Diego Police Department, told CityBeat there is an ongoing investigation and that District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis will hold a press conference tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.

Paul Levikow, a spokesperson for Dumanis, said he would not comment until after the press conference.

A spokesperson for the San Diego County Sheriff, Jan Caldwell, confirmed that sheriff’s deputies are also involved in this operation. CityBeat takes this to mean the operation is countywide. We’ll be making more calls as the afternoon goes on.

There has been a boom of dispensary openings in recent months since U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said raiding medical marijuana dispensaries would not be a priority for the Drug Enforcement Agency. Also, the U.S. Supreme Court recent declined to hear the medical marijuana lawsuit brought by San Diego County and others challenging California’s voter-passed initiative that legalized the sale and use of medical marijuana.

CityBeat will update more as we know it.

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122 Comments leave one →
  1. J Lamb permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

    Hillcrest Compassion Care, too….

  2. Vexed With Babylon permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

    FUCK

  3. ddog permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

    I saw two SDPD cruisers and an SDPD van parked outside Top Quality Collective about an hour ago.

  4. ddog permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

    My sources tell me 23 dispensaries were raided today.

  5. Scat permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

    Green tree solutions also got raided! And also answerdam!!

  6. Joe permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

    It is possible that the City Council checks their brain in at the door prior to their meetings.

    Someone commented on the price of pot; I believe there is a reasonable solution to this whole mess.

    The inner city grower’s overhead costs will always lead to high prices; also price will fluctuate according to how elaborate the operation is i.e. Collective or Co-op amenities.

    By banning collectives you will eventually drive the growers into the community; whereby, you then run the risk of growing operations starting in houses.

    The City Council’s decision will very possibly serve to create more problems than they expect.

    Do you ever get the feeling that those in office believe they are the only ones with an education?

    Cannabis should be grown outdoors in the properly zoned agricultural areas like any other crop.

    The current agricultural regulations could be amended to include the banning of petroleum based fertilizers in the process of growing cannabis. This would help keep the supply from unwanted contamination.

    Growing cannabis outdoors would not require a large sum of money to be allocated to ever rising energy costs; you wouldn’t need a big fancy indoor grow system.

    Our eco system is working fine; lower energy cost means less over head, and that equals savings for all.

    We have had years of prohibition, and it may take some time for people to adjust.

    • September 9, 2009 - 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

      Hi Joe: Right on…I can only hope that pot will be legally grown. But, then again, I really don’t believe that there is a bloody problem. Alcohol, tobacco is far more dangerous. It will take some time for the morons to figure it out.

  7. LittleTony permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

    PBC was closed. Owners got arrested. DEA raided the owners home as well.
    WTF ???

  8. OH OH HERE COMES A FLOCK OF WA-WAS permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

    LOL JOE, THAT SOUNDS RETARDED.

    • Joe permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 11:04 pm 11:04 pm

      I thought you are for regulation. Sounds like you maybe a little biased. What is so retarded about following regulations? I also believe that dispensaries should operate under the Spirit of the law not just the letter of the law.

    • Joe permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

      I thought you are for regulation.

  9. OH OH HERE COMES A FLOCK OF WA-WAS permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

    ARE YOU PEOPLE REALLY SAD THIS IS HAPPENING? DO YOU OWN THESE SHOPS? WHY ARE YOU TRIPPIN? EVER HEARD OF BONNIE DUMANIS? SHE IS HARDCORE, AND SHE ISNT LETTING CRAP FLY UNREGULATED IN “OUR” CITY, K? LET THESE “DISPENSARIES” GET ESTABLISHED “GUIDELINES” AND THEN IT WILL BE ALL GOOD. ROOT OUT THE WEED FROM THE BUD

  10. LittleTony permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

    Anymore news on what is happeneing and why ? What kind of charges are being filed ?

  11. SDReef permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

    I walked in on Nature’s RX being raided. I saw one of the employees handcuffed and being placed in an unmarked cruiser. I was frisked, detained, questioned, ckecked for any warrents and let go. I asked if I was being arrested, they said “No”, but they asked “What type of medical condition I have to get a doctor’s recommendation.” (which is illegal) and I responded “It is none of your business.” They also asked for my Medical Marj. Card, which they returned to me.

    • Adela-wisdom organica permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 10:26 pm 10:26 pm

      Call me 619-888-4311
      wisdom organics
      adela

    • September 16, 2009 - 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

      SDReef-

      Read and learn: http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1601_medicalmarijuanaguidelines.pdf

      You are supposed to inform the officer of your medical condition!

      Telling a police officer “it’s none of your business” is being unlawful and uncooperative!

      • ChuckBooze permalink
        October 17, 2009 - 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

        In your dream… you said: Telling a police officer “it’s none of your business” is being unlawful and uncooperative!

        That’s bullshit. I just read the GUIDELINES FOR THE SECURITY AND NON-DIVERSION OF MARIJUANA GROWN FOR MEDICAL USE (August 2008), and nowhere in there does it mention disclosure of the patient’s medical condition to any law enforcement officer is required. Do you see the word “disclosure” anywhere in the doc you linked? I didn’t.

        For starters, HIPPA rules and doctor-patient confidentiality would trump. Secondly, unless you’re under oath (perjury), or unless the nice officer has a warrant signed by a judge, you don’t have to answer any questions that you don’t want to. Period.

        I suggest you read the documents you’re linking before telling others what they tell you you “have to” do.

        Pwnd.

  12. OH OH HERE COMES A FLOCK OF WA-WAS permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

    SD REEF THATS CRAZY! BAD TIMING… AT LEAST THEY LET YOU GO~ WONDER WHAT CHARGES THE OWNERS R GETTING

  13. funnystuff permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

    HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

  14. September 9, 2009 - 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

    Funny how, up until all the current issues around medical canibus, I never realized Police get to enforce the laws they choose…..

    We are over a decade into voter legalized medical canibus, and still the laws are primarily unwritten by it legislators, and not honored by it’s enforcers. Really it is just shameful, and internationally, it makes us look like fools.

    • TRUTH permalink
      September 13, 2009 - 12:47 am 12:47 am

      thank you! that is real. it makes us and our government look like fools. these people running these business’s where not trying to hide any thing from the cops or the government. we voted on this to make it legal as a state and it passed, which doesn’t seem to matter to some people with higher authority. this also makes our newly elected president a liar, because prior to being elected into office he had released a statement promising to cut all government funding to raid these established medicinal clubs. this is not right, it’s not fair to these owners who got arrested that actually ran their clubs right, the way they got the ok and were approved to do so by the same government who took them down and is potentially ruining their lives because of this indecision and corruption. if any of these clubs were not being ran properly then they should have been taken down, but there is no way that all the clubs that went down were not operating legitimately. its really not fair and we should not let it stand.

  15. Easy E permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

    F… THE POLICE COMING STR8 FROM THE UNDERGROUND!

  16. September 9, 2009 - 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

    San Diego’s authorities are violating state law.
    They have sworn to uphold the laws of the state.
    And they had announced previously “arrest them all, let the courts sort it out”
    And the courts do. SD tried to overturn in court Ca’s mmj laws and failed.
    The agencies that are doing this are in violation of the law.
    They are criminal and thugs disguised as servants of the people.
    Hope fully some smart attorney will sue the actual people responsible
    for this and make their lives as miserable as the lives they are ruthlessly destroying.

    • TRUTH permalink
      September 13, 2009 - 12:48 am 12:48 am

      amen. amen. this is what should be on CNN until they the SD authorities can prove otherwise.

  17. lisa jones permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

    HCC got what was coming to them hahaha i hate that place

    • dond permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

      Movement in Action in Vista also got fuckin raided today. To bad, James is a cool guy and very nice person. ASSHOLES!!!

    • Joe permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

      Those dudes were a bunch of assholes, maybe because they weren’t legit?

      • Sean permalink
        September 10, 2009 - 10:55 am 10:55 am

        Why knock anyone who is helping provide bud and trying to do it legally. What is wrong with you people???

  18. TaxMan420 permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

    Lemme ask you this…. Were these collectives charging taxes ON TOP of their prices? I notice if you pay the piper, the rats will stay away……. Taxman

    • September 9, 2009 - 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

      8.75%

      • Anonymous permalink
        September 9, 2009 - 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

        Depending on your City can be ip to 8percent

    • Tax Evasion? permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

      Most of the dispensaries were run like street drug operations, no license, permit, accounting or anything a normal business would have. The city was not reaping any benefits from these guys in terms of tax dollars. Most of the dispensary owners are going to be charged for zoning issues, San Diego’s fault for not establishing them in the first place.

  19. September 9, 2009 - 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

    It is total discrimination. Prior to the bans and moratoriums, sometime in july, the city of san diego stopped issuing business licenses to medical marijuana collectives with extreme prejudice without merit. Forcing collectives to operate without a city business license – which has nothing to do with the state law. The Business Tax is a city tax. How can all these collectives be shut down due to san diego’s disregard for a state law that was passed 10 years ago. Pull your fucking head out of your ass San Diego and get with the program. Set up guidelines, and tax the shit out of it. Yes, shut down the bullshit dispensaries. Yes, form a task force. After these raids I see a lot of tax payers money being wasted on law suits. The city needs to be sued for discrimination. There are a lot of patients right now without safe access to their medication. Great!! take marijuana sales back to the streets, idiots!! Why lose out on all that sales tax, payroll tax, business tax money. This is one of the only “booming” business in this current economy, providing jobs, and putting marijuana & marijuana sales in a place that could be watched and regulated. You make the call – Mexican drug cartels or collective member “local” growers.

  20. SDReef permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

    Does Anyone know why they are raiding? Ban Bonnie!!! VOTE her OUT next election! WE do not need to take this type of harrassment anymore!!

  21. September 9, 2009 - 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

    i fucked bonnie in the ASS.. and then we smoked a joint.. hippocryte

    • funnystuff permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

      ur an idiot

    • funnystuff permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

      u couldnt handle it

    • funnystuff permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

      besides your dumbazz would have to leave in the middle when the cops came to bust ur dirty azz

      • dond permalink
        September 9, 2009 - 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

        Comon you little bitches; knock it off!!!

  22. jros permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

    where is the press conference

  23. September 9, 2009 - 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

    ****EVERYBODY*****: WRITE, CALL, EMAIL PRESIDENT OBAMA NOW!!!! IT’S EASY, GO HERE:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/

    WE WILL NOT HAVE OUR FREEDOMS TAKEN AWAY ANYMORE AND OBAMA CAN FIX THIS EASILY ASAP.

    1) ASK HIM TO FIRE ERIC HOLDER FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE PRESIDENTS CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND WASTING MY HARD EARNED TAXES ON RAIDS WITH GUNS ON SICK PEOPLE.
    2) ASK HIM WHY FEDERAL FUNDS ARE BEING USED AGAINST HARMLESS PATIENTS.
    3) ASK HIM TO HELP BY CALLING SAN DIEGO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SAN DIEGO DEA NOW!!!
    4) ASK HIM TO KEEP THE PROMISES HE MADE.
    5) ASK HIM TO HAVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUE THE SAN DIEGO LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR VIOLATING SEVERAL LAW IN THE RAIDS.
    6) COPY PASTE THIS MESSAGE AND POST IT IN EVERY BLOG ABOUT THE INCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THIS WEEK.

    FINALLY, IF ANYONE IS A LAWYER, SUE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO. MAKE SAN DIEGO BLEED MONEY IN THE COURTROOM SO IT CAN’T AFFORD TO DO MORE RAIDS.

    I HAVE TO GO NOW TO FIND ANOTHER COLLECTIVE.

  24. Whata County we live in permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 8:08 pm 8:08 pm

    What a county we live in.

    Our D.A. Dummanus HAS TO GO!!!

    Rumor has it that she is in a same sex marriage.

    Hypocrite.

    Including myself, at least 30+ people are out of a job now.

    If I were a Collective owner I would either close my doors or at least cut back on my inventory of medicine to the Legal San Diego City amount of 1 lb. until this is resolved.

    This does really suck!

  25. is this legal? permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

    Is it legal to use a state issued warrant to enforce federal law? and contradict state law?

  26. Postmaster permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

    Fact of the matter is the Supreme Court ruled, and the Pres. announced that it wasnt the Fed. Gov. deal to tell a state how to run its heathcare. IE medical MJ. These guys are just hassling everyone. Like the above written piece says… they were given 48 hrs to provide legal paper work…they should have been able to do that as the law walked into the door of their shop. If they could have they wouldnt need 48 hrs to find it. also, there was a club in la jolla still open…bet he had what he needed when they walked in. at that point there is no way for the authorities to know if you are following state law or not….bang f*** arrest and siezure. The Feds can raid all the for profit clubs…. i am not saying any of these people were doing that, I vend to a lot of them, just stating what I know to be fact and what I can pull from the above piece.

    Piece out guys-

    FCC

  27. Adela-wisdom organica permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

    I own and operate wisdom organics and what is happening is an outrage! Don’t fight amongst eachother- now more than ever we need to cone together! Stop operation green rx! Call Bonnie and tell her to stop this madness. We have power in numbers……hoping to reopen soon
    adela

    • rusher permalink
      September 9, 2009 - 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

      Hope you guys are well…Peace
      See ya soon 🙂

    • KeepOnRockin' permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 1:17 am 1:17 am

      Best of luck to you and all involved in this act of treachery.
      Sticking together is a message that should be spread widely in these trying times.
      Harm no one, love thy neighbor, and live your life how you choose to. It’s not that hard.

      The police have no right to do what they did.
      Maybe California should succeed from the union and write our own rules..think about it.

    • September 16, 2009 - 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

      You Adela, are in with the bad apples!
      Are you growing your own medication for your collective? Are you working with persons that are selling to other collectives? Are you paying your city, state, federal taxes?
      I’m willing to bet, you have crossed the guidelines some where along the way.

      Fact: Anyone calling themselves a vendor, that doesn’t grow, who supplies marijuana to more than one collective and or doesn’t live in the City of San Diego or San Diego County is just a drug dealer!

      http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1601_medicalmarijuanaguidelines.pdf

  28. September 9, 2009 - 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

    paul, shaga, james its tom the painter you are my frends call me pls paul has my number so does veronica pls call me or say comment fuch all police who fuck with the peopleHCC<HCC for life your frend thomas

  29. September 9, 2009 - 11:01 pm 11:01 pm

    to all the people who got raided have a calm mind this will all pass.all collectiv members unite send out a message we will not stop serving ower community lets group together pls if any hcc members are reading this let me know lets stay united as one

  30. September 9, 2009 - 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

    green kross this is hester jujitsu you know who im talking about i hope you are ok to the sister i watched the you tube video of a guy poping a zit on back pls make a comment hear i can help bro out remeber im a hester too you know who i am pls make a contact on this site

  31. Postmaster permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

    Adela-wisdom organica…. please hop onto my page on myspace and send me a message. I would like to get into contact with you and talk about this ordeal.

    http://www.myspace.com/497171514
    Adam
    F.C.C.

  32. September 9, 2009 - 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

    my mom can help hillcrestcompationcare and green kross i need a contact for paul and jujitsu

  33. September 9, 2009 - 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

    We fully support legal co-ops on our website and hope that this will come to a end soon. Our president lied to us just like all the rest. Wake up people… Your government is against you! Don’t forget prohibition!

  34. September 9, 2009 - 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

    Oh our site is http://MMJSpots.com … I thought it published it automatically sorry.

  35. Postmaster permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

    Also, most of these guys did charge tax. because of the small amount of money, to the club in an overall profit cut, most of these guys were just including tax. What that means is that they actually were operating legally as far as that is concerned. The Healing Dragon in San Marcos charged tax, and posted it on a sign. SDDC in Hillcrest rang everything up on a register and gave you a copy of the receipt. Pretty sure they had a sign posted about tax included aswell. I dont recall any of them having propper paperwork displayed at the entry door after the lobby, or inside I dont think. Either way you look at it, most of these guys were allowed to open due to grandfather clauses. They were already on the list to get their licenses, so they couldnt be denied. everyone after that was denied. Whoever is on here just yapin their mouth because they feel kool should check their facts. I know a lot the guys that worked in quite a few of these places. Some I could have told you were gonna get raided after I walked into them the first time. I wont be returning to those ones. But others I have direct contact with and members of my collective have direct contact with. MOST of these guys were just hasseled. Some will probably be going to jail. Some that should be going wont be due to the fact that they have their legal loose ends tied up.

    Lets be clear…it will blow over due to clubs being harrassed, but they will also be shutting a few down. I am fully confident that we will recover from this and continue to go on our way. I just hope ppl take note. Their is some BS reason they were able to get the warrants.

    I was in Green Tree earlier this afternoon. I read the search warrant and the seized articles paperwork. They cops didnt even lock the front door. I walked into and empty unlocked building. The warrant was for everything, dried flowers, cons, edibles, everything man. And they seized everything from Seedless clothing to hard drives. For anyone who wants them…the Penal Codes listed for warrant reason, legitamatly, PC Section 1524, 1536, and Title 21 Section 881. I havent had a chance to look them up due to being swampped tieing up more loose legal ends were I am at.

    Safe Harbor in Danya Point is open. I went directly there this afternoon after Ifound out about this crap. Thy offer a 10% discount to people who drive from down here.

    • rusher permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 12:02 am 12:02 am

      Title 21 Section 881 – this is DEA for sure…other 2 are state.

      Sucks…Getting meds from some of these places was still better then getting them from the freaking tweakers…

      😦

    • constatly agitated permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 11:24 am 11:24 am

      Forgive the cut and paste – but the warrants were based on what you would think – that a felony was being committed ie they were selling without the correct paperwork to show they were non-profit.
      below are the penal code sections – and the other sections have to do with their right to take it all, property, money, etc etc etc because of the ‘probable’ cause of a felony taking place:

      1524. (a) A search warrant may be issued upon any of the following
      grounds:

      (2) When the property or things were used as the means of
      committing a felony.
      (4) When the property or things to be seized consist of any item
      or constitute any evidence that tends to show a felony has been
      committed, or tends to show that a particular person has committed a
      felony.

      1536
      All property or things taken on a warrant must be retained by
      the officer in his custody, subject to the order of the court to
      which he is required to return the proceedings before him, or of any
      other court in which the offense in respect to which the property or
      things taken is triable.

      Sec. 881. Forfeitures
      -STATUTE-
      (a) Subject property
      The following shall be subject to forfeiture to the United States and no property right shall exist in them:
      (1) All controlled substances which have been manufactured, distributed, dispensed, or acquired in violation of this subchapter.
      (5) All books, records, and research, including formulas, microfilm, tapes, and data which are used, or intended for use, in violation of this subchapter.
      (6) All moneys,

      Bonnie Dumanis comes up for reelection in 2010 – SHE MUST GO. She has been behind the 2 long standing suits in superior court which were thrown out one by one but AT GREAT COST TO SAN DIEGO CITIZENS! ! ! ! who did not ASK for her kind of help. We have to watch that reelection process and be vigilant and VOCAL about educating others so that she does not get another term. shudder.

      San Diego is known for a conservative leadership which just will not let the medical MJ laws go easy…. it is not one person (driving the endless busts), but tiers of people in law enforcement, legal spots etc that all feel irritated about having to follow Med MJ laws. They will continue to go out of their way to thwart the issues. It will take time, but one by one they need to be THROWN OUT (no reelection) and people MUST start to become educated on the people running our city. THey MUST vote and become educated on the issues so they don’t come back to bite us later. We have to be proactive on who we allow to boss us around.

      Meanwhile – TJ has made small amounts legal to carry – haha what a world.

      As far as shouting out for our rights – it is still more tricky than shouting out about gay marriage. You can’t be arrested for having a ‘gay encounter’ but you still can for being caught with marijuana without a patient ID and even WITH a patient ID. The atty I spoke to said EVERY PATIENT should copy, print and carry in their car and home the attorney general’s guidelines for the amounts that patients can be allowed to have because there are MANY arrests made by cops who simply do not know that the law has changed and a patient card = you may have more than 1 ounce. Just a big hassle to undo, which might be prevented if you can SHOW THEM what the current laws are. Showing up in numbers to argue this stuff is still a scary thing while they are taking names and sending DEA after you = \

      The atty I spoke to said the SD police ALWAYS BRING THE FEDS with them on a bust – if it’s a grower, a co-op etc… because as STATE employees, their hands are somewhat tied… but they let the DEA do all the dirty work, ie, the DEA takes all the stuff, even if it’s “legal” and paperwork is in order for a patient. The DEA takes the plants, money etc etc and later can ‘share’ it with local cops – but they are bound by law what they can and can’t take…. so it’s an elaborate plan and easy to put into action.

      HAHA you thought Obama would stand behind his bulldogs?? I tip my cap to the dispensary owners because they stuck their heads right into the trim box; it’s a big thing to be so fearless because NO WAY there would not be repercussions. they are taking the heat; I just hope they have zero assets so they can’t lose ‘everything’. I think the leases on the premises are still enforced, even though there is no business to create income.

      When we go 2 years without any shut downs, then maybe things will begin to even out – until then, keep yer heads down.

      and VOTE DUMANIS OUT of office.

  36. Joe permalink
    September 9, 2009 - 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

    For all of you that are not educated on the benifits of marijuan please consider the research.

    http://medicalcbd.wordpress.com/

  37. Postmaster permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 12:58 am 12:58 am

    http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/csa/881.htm
    check it out… this is pertaining to street drug dealers. As long as the individuals that were responsible for the clubs had their paperwork this would have been void, feds or not. especially on the heals of the court ruling.

    California Penal Code Section 1524

    http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/1524.html

    what a joke….same comment applies from above

    California Penal Code Section 1536

    http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/1536.html

    I can’t believe this…. this is the same thing they did to the tobacco smoke shops in Escondido. I want to see what law suits arise out of this. This is the same old non-sense. And this on the heals of talk about making fully legal… it blows my mind

  38. September 10, 2009 - 1:08 am 1:08 am

    “The People and our Constitution in Relation to Justice”

    Whether one is a strict or liberal constructionist of the “Constitution,” when one looks at the “Constitution,” they are looking at a frame work that has become the very backbone of our American heritage. The Constitution itself envisions the requirement of interpretivist review. Interpretivist Review produces the stability and predictability essential to the rule of law. In that aspect Judges are not particularly well suited to make judgments of broad social policy. When non-interpretivist justify their actions on the basis of, “Doing Justice,” they act improperly because they are incapable of deciding what is just, and are considered an “Activist Judiciary”. The Activist Judiciary, as in the cases of Operation Green Rx in San Diego, the Marc Emory case, the Jan Vaughn case in South Carolina, and the countless other cases popping up across the country, undermines the very “Principles of Democracy.”

    One of the major arguments for Judicial Review is that a decision that reflects justice should incorporate in its decision a reasonable decision making process that speaks volumes about the principles used and how they can affect future conflicts. The public is to be educated by the courts, not confused, about the principles of fairness, democratic values, and a collective justice. This brings me to its need.

    The day that Prohibition reared its ugly head in America, was the day a war began. Very soon afterward Prohibition began so began the gangs and organized crime, from the famous such as Al Capone, to the ordinary ‘Moon shiner or Bootlegger,” from the hills and backwoods across America. The cost of Prohibition continues today, thus far reaching more that could possibly be calculated. The tax dollars, the loss of human lives, the common citizen persecuted and lives ruined, has become what has been called “The War on Drugs.”

    The “War on Drugs, or should I say, the direct attack against a like minded population of the American people that believe enough of the taxpayers hard earned income has been spent on Prohibition, and the three quarters of a century of scare tactics and unproven rhetoric, the government still uses today, has not stopped the importation or use, either medical or recreational, of cannabis due to the simple laws of economics supply and demand. If “We the People,” has the meaning that the framers of the Constitution intended, then why has the law put itself above the law?

    When the people vote and secure a set of laws that don’t necessarily set well with elected or appointed officials, and those in law enforcement, how can it be legal for that agency to interpret and carry out the law anyway they see fit? The Supreme Court has already refused to hear case such as the cases in San Diego. The San Diego DA needs to remember her place in the system, and stop abusing the 4th, 9th and especially the 10th amendment rights of those allowed by National Law given those under State Law, the right to obtain Medical Access to Cannabis.

    Our Constitution is not some historic relic, an object of the curious. It is a crucial organic document of our Nation for its survival. It’s a 220 year old living, breathing piece of our American Heritage. There is too much at stake for this foundation of our Nation, drafted by courageous men, ratified by the populace that were tired of out of control government, and given to us with those precious, delicate Amendments we still hold so dear, and some in our Congress think we should do away with. We can not let the Constitution become a washed out leaf of parchment to a modern day justice system to do as they will with their own personal sociological and political agendas.

    A government must be able to govern itself, and still recognize the worth of all of its citizens and their rights and liberties. In turn each one of us, as citizens, has an obligation to the country that is hand and hand with those rights and liberties. We must “Earn our keep,” vote, limiting the power of an overgrown government, have some self-worth, and in doing so give ourselves some value as individual citizens of this country. You voted them in, you vote them out. Stay in touch with your Local, State, and Federal Representatives, to the point they know you by name. Mine do. Don’t hold back when discussing the matters of importance with them, but make sure you have your research well done, even though they will just smile and thank you, do the same. Be respectful, but stand your ground, after all they work for you, you don’t work for the government; your taxes pay their salaries. Something they need to remember the next time you go to the polls to vote. I wonder how hard it might be, in this economy, for those voted out of office to secure a good well paying job.

    • rick permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 10:22 am 10:22 am

      Our vote obviously will not help……Only strong physical action. You vote someone in, and the government stll imposes there will……..Riot in the streets!! Bang on the door of our officials till they leave our city….Fight against the Police that take these issues into there own hand….WE VOTED>>>>AND IT PASSED>>>WE NEED TO FIGHT!!

  39. darkwave619 permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 4:03 am 4:03 am

    What total BS

  40. September 10, 2009 - 8:08 am 8:08 am

    get rid of bonnie.

    bonnie it’s time for you to move on.

    you really suck at what you do.

  41. September 10, 2009 - 8:28 am 8:28 am

    Vote early and vote often.
    Al Capone
    and make sure to vote for Dummanis, she’s making me RICH
    🙂

  42. rick permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 10:17 am 10:17 am

    We all need to come together, fight for our rights, controll these elected officials and reverse there agenda. THE PEOPLE VOTED…..WE ARE THE PEOPLE RIGHT!…Take our city back from these thugs that disregard the will of the people!!How long will we sit here and take this….Where are the revolutionaries that unhold the Laws, voted by the people. I want a WAR!!!! This is serious stuff, you can’t have a democratic gov..that doesn’t listen to it’s people…I’m ready for the WAR, THE STRUGGLE…Whats next, if the people voted…Why are they not listening, how can they dictate from there offices we appointed them to….Let the fight begin, they have highjacked the offices WE elected them to….TAKE THE FASCIST OUT! Contact me to start the process…THIS CAN NO LONGER GO IGNORED….People we need to come together to fight this illegal controll…..

  43. duglas permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 10:30 am 10:30 am

    The New Not-So-New Not-So-Secret Civil War

    A Siege Carries On
    Across Our Borders And Shorelines
    The Warriors On Both Sides Are Thugs
    They Live By The Gun
    And Die for The Dollar
    Courtesy Of Our “Civil War On Drugs”

    The War’s Not Against Drugs
    But Rather Our People
    The Prohibition Squeezes Like A Vice
    Dead End Agency Pogrums
    And Bill Of Rights Conundrums
    Feeding Profit To Black Market Price

    Elliot Ness
    May Have An Opinion
    About How Things Got Twisted Around
    But He Made A Living
    And Name For Himself
    While Battling To Keep Booze Underground

    And Then There’s Capone
    And His Minion Of Henchmen
    Serving Up Drinks For Great Cash
    The Law Kept Them Busy
    With Raids On Speakeasys
    And The Risk Raised The Price Of Their Stash

    Now You Can Shop
    Over The Counter For Hooch
    Booze’s Black Market Brought To Its Knees
    By Clear Common Sense
    And A Fair Constitution
    Seeing Alcholism’s Not Crime But Disease.

    But Science Has Fallen
    To Political Whim
    Medicine Is Driven By Sales
    There’s A War To Keep Ganja
    From Curing The Masses
    By Tossing Sick Folks And Healers In Jails

    Our Knee Jerk Response
    Making Disease An Offense
    Punishes Addiction By Not Sparing The Rod
    This Legislated Moral Directive
    Is About As Effective
    As A Circular Firing Squad

    Our Cities Are Scarred
    Addiction’s Carnage Has Carved
    Our Schoolyards Into Spawning Grounds For Slaves
    While The Prisons Are Filled
    More And More Blood Gets Spilled
    The Founding Fathers Must Be Spinning In Their Graves

    The First Casualties Of War
    Are Credibilty And Truth
    Next Falls Our Constitutional Rights
    Raising Gangstas And Warlords
    Into Heroes Of Pop Folklore
    While A Skewed Press Salutes Misguided Knights

    Our New Prohibition
    Causes Much Bigger Problems
    Than The Ones We’re Trying To Solve
    We Need Sharp Thought
    And The Actions Of Many
    To Change Course With Wisdom And Resolve

  44. rick permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 10:48 am 10:48 am

    …….Just a side point………California voted against gay marriage, and did you see the response..? YES, they were on every corner! Sign’s in hand, and yelling that they feel the vote needs to be changed. OUR VOTE PASSED!!!! OUR VOTE PASSED!!!! And yet you see no response….it’s a shame they run right over us….Put us in PRISON!!!!!PUT US IN PRISON!!!!!!!OUR VOTE PASSED!!!!!!RISE UP PEOPLE OF SAN DIEGO< RISE UP!!!!!!!!!!THIS is the biggest injustice in AMERICAN DEMOCRACTIC Life……RISE UP!!!!!! When they run over us and break there own laws of governing…Where will it stop…RISE UP!!!!!! PHYSICAL action is needed!!!

    • September 10, 2009 - 11:13 am 11:13 am

      im a terminal patient who got meds for free does anyone know whare to get meds comped for terminal patient.

  45. Anonymous permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 10:56 am 10:56 am

    Fuck the police

    • rick permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 11:10 am 11:10 am

      …….Just a side point………California voted against gay marriage, and did you see the response..? YES, they were on every corner! Sign’s in hand, and yelling that they feel the vote needs to be changed. OUR VOTE PASSED!!!! OUR VOTE PASSED!!!! And yet you see no response….it’s a shame they run right over us….Put us in PRISON!!!!!PUT US IN PRISON!!!!!!!OUR VOTE PASSED!!!!!!RISE UP PEOPLE OF SAN DIEGO< RISE UP!!!!!!!!!!THIS is the biggest injustice in AMERICAN DEMOCRACTIC Life……RISE UP!!!!!! When they run over us and break there own laws of governing…Where will it stop…RISE UP!!!!!! PHYSICAL action is needed!!!

  46. Postmaster permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 11:09 am 11:09 am

    rick you must be a young guy, or have the mind set of one. Unfortuantely, we will not be able to riot the streets and cause all kinds of chaos, and even if we could, it would set this movement back to 30 years before it started. Take your ignorant nonsense leave it off this topic.

    Ppl already are not standing for it… everyone needs to relize that the only way we are going to square this nonsense aways is when a class action is filed against the county. The county has already been demanded by the supreme court to adhere to the state law. They were told to get the ID card program started, etc. All the officials are doing is hiding behind loop holes to prolong the decision. I promise you this SD and cities like Escondido cannot hide behind this red tape forever. One way or another this is going to contiue.

    Its gonna take a conglomerate of ppl that have the finanaces, intellegence, and actual passion for this indistry to shut these gov. officials up. It can be done, its just a matter of time. As everyone has put it…law is the law is the law. But, I have had an Esco. PD officer tell me that my MM script was more of a defense than a law. He was wrong, and I won that battl, but the fact is these ppl tell you what they want you to think…and they will continue to do this until we as a community stand together in a court room and make them bleed green. As soon as we hit these official’s pocket books, they will keep trying to rape us.

    the good thing that will come out of this is all the legit clubs shouldnt have to worry about this after today. The ones that reopen due to the fact that they did follow the law, will be almost exempt from this harrasment a second time. Charge them once and they get off fine. charge them again with the same thing under the same preteences and have them walk a second time….harrasement = law suit

    hit their pocket books = we win

    at that point it will be costing them moey to raid, a lot of it, then they will be paying out the a** for the law suits. That will not be a profitable for them and they will back off.

    croocked SOB’s

    • rick permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 11:15 am 11:15 am

      Thanks for your ability to communicate your opinon effectively….I’m a 33yr old small business owner, married and try to live a peaceful life. My problem falls with the government that constantly fails to uphold the will of the people. I’m the will of the people, we voted. The law cant be hyprocritical, the will of the people has spoken. People are being in prisoned by outlaw decisions not based on law. You tell me what we should do….

  47. rick permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 11:19 am 11:19 am

    I’m a 34yr old man, small business owner. The vote has been cased….they are in violation of the Law…We are going to prison my friend, shall we sit back and allow them to do as they please…….Remember that i’m on your side, your opinion matters as mine. But to violate the voted law causes people to believe the government is no longer on OUR side. Please tell me how electing, voting, or being passive can change this situation. We have take all DEMOCRATIC steps….have we not?

  48. September 10, 2009 - 11:26 am 11:26 am

    im a terminal patient got med for free at sdcg does anyone know whare to get same compation?

  49. Lucy permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 11:30 am 11:30 am

    I just can’t believe what’s happening, but sadly it’s happened. Is there anywhere left in San Diego or must all the medical patients resort to driving northward to find their meds now?

    • rick permalink
      September 10, 2009 - 11:45 am 11:45 am

      Sorry for your pain, hopefully the pain and suffering will end soon. Your vote, your pain will be heard…We need to stop the insanity. I’m sorry for your pain………..

  50. September 10, 2009 - 11:45 am 11:45 am

    if you guys need your meds delivered check budtrader.com

  51. Postmaster permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

    read the news paper guys…. North County Times…… aside from what I said above the only thing they could have hoped to accomplish by this is to open a County/State owned club with seized goods. There was a 6-1 vote Tuesday stating that the laws were to immediately be looked at and written. This was after the moratoriums that were placed on varrious cities. Upon questioning officails yesterday had nothing to say. DEA passed the buck to DA. DA passed the buck to the Task Force, and no-one had any idea what was going on except that a few clubs were going to be raided.

    Only reason for the kid coment was the rioting the streets comment. that is not your average adult point of view. Sorry if it was offensive, that wasnt my intention.

  52. Postmaster permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

    http://nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_8a03cd17-f9df-5834-9796-2bf586792e79.html
    there you go guys.

  53. September 10, 2009 - 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

    Just when you think the county is getting their #@$% together, this happen. What happened to states rights. Dose our vote truly mean nothing. I think I may burn my voters registration card. If we all did that maybe it would get the attention of the ones that allow people to suffer needlessly.

    D.

  54. Jack Eich permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

    Is anyone suprised by our communist government attacking legitimate businesses? See why our economy is faltering?two unnecessary wars,no work and when something is doing well the government attacks and tries to close it. our country is not the america I was taught about. I am ashamed to live in the United States anymore. this is a socialist enclave with nazi police forces. It is no longer the will of the people,everyone is a czar now. no freedom in the usa. going to have to leave and move to cuba.

  55. Anonymous permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

    I don’t think that the club that I went to that charges 380 for an ounce is non-profit. I would like if they closed all these expensive for-profit clubs. Legally they need to be non-profit; and cheaper medicine sounds good to me. Why would I care if they close all the clubs if I know people that have the same medicine for cheaper.

  56. September 10, 2009 - 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

    What happened to the organic, outdoor, wonderful, truly psychedelic marijuana of the 60’s,70s? We are all being duped by powers who have genetically engineered and politically manipulated a gift from Nature, degraded it and why would anyone believe that somehow- this product could become available anymore than quality organic food is- except to the wealthy.
    Of course if legal, no doubt terminal patients wouldn’t be worried about how to pay for their meds with prices nearing the price of a months rent. DO IT ANYWAY.

  57. September 10, 2009 - 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

    I am at a loss for words, The closer it seems we get to Legalization, tolerance and understanding about the amazing Hemp cannabis plant Some city like Sand Diego does something like this……Please as your sitting there smoking your medicine thinking MAN THIS SUCKS actually get up, call your Congress, call the city council, make calls and get out and protest with the rest of us FOR LEGALIZATION of HEMP CANNABIS and Help us SAVE THE PLANET!

    “One Love”

    Hemp the Planet free the Weed!

  58. great ganja permalink
    September 10, 2009 - 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

    Bonnie has to go.

    This action will only ad to the cost of our medicine as now the collectives will have to pay big $$$ for a defense fund.

    I just read on the NCT site that James from MIA in Vista has been charged with Federal offense for selling mj.

    Of the collectives I visited in the County, MIA was the most pro-active in actually being a true collective by the classes and such that they provided for its membership.

    Good Luck to James and all the others that are a target of this harassment by our elected officials.

    Do I hear class action law suit?

  59. Postmaster permalink
    September 11, 2009 - 10:53 am 10:53 am

    anyone hear anything about the verdict of the court session yesterday. Been hunting around for info, but no dice.

  60. Joe permalink
    September 11, 2009 - 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

    Sent: 09-11-2009 11:41 AM
    To: ‘jerrysanders@sandiego.gov’
    Subject: Adding To The Confusion / Citizens response

    Dear Mayor Sanders,

    I thought Bonnies’ gateway theory was offensive; I don’t believe she considered the demographic she was addressing.

    What is Bonnie teaching our children?

    In a recent KUSI News interview, Bonnie makes what I consider a discriminatory remark that I find very offensive; Bonnie said, “You can go into the doctor and say, I have a headache or insomnia any kind… they will get you ha… it’s not a card…its a recommendation…”

    What are we telling the general public? Why don’t you say things like, “he/she does not deserve their disabled placard; look he/she is walking, there is nothing wrong with them. You don’t say things like that because it’s wrong and most likely you are wrong.

    Has Bonnie ever experienced the headaches brought on by a traumatic head injury and the insomnia associated with it?

    Has she ever experience so much orthopedic pain that she can’t get to sleep at night?

    Who is she to judge those people, and their medical needs!

    Is she a doctor!

    Is she qualified to make comments like that!

    Is she trying to burn the images of San Diego Police Department man handling a wheel chair patient into the publics mind; thus possibly creating a stereotype for public consumption?

    I feel Bonnie has violated public trust by sowing seeds of doubt and suspicion throughout or community, and used a bully pulpit to accomplish HER mission.

    The remarks Bonnie made regarding disabled people are disgusting.

    Did Bonnie really consider her words?

    Bonnie 2wks ago: Bonnie says, “Marijuana is a gateway drug, and people commit crimes to get it.”

    How can the gateway theory be applied to a bunch of patients that have already been prescribed some of the most powerful painkillers by their doctors?

    Are we to view everyone in our neighborhood that uses marijuana as potential criminals?

    It is irresponsible for Bonnie to portray those who use medical marijuana as potential criminals.

    Patients now may have to deal with the possible threat of harassment, assault, discrimination, etc.

    Bonnie as of yesterday: “I am not against medical marijuana; I have supported it from the beginning.”

    Which is it Bonnie? I think she is adding to the overall confusion.

    May I make a suggestion?

    Before Bonnie decides to get up in front of the public and speak, it may help if she considers educating herself on who, what, when, where, and why; some basic investigation would have told her that a good number of chronic pain patients that have broken bodies due to accidents, birth defects, etc., have come to the conclusion, with their doctors help, that the narcotics being prescribed to them help pain, but then eventual create pain.

    Most chronic pain patients have had to suffer through the excruciating withdrawal symptoms associated with narcotics, and with their doctors help they are finding other alternatives i.e. marijuana, etc. that are less toxic and are less addictive.

    Many people are running away from the 1st line choice of narcotics, not running to them.

    I am having a problem digesting the news footage of the police officer putting an arm bar on a wheel chair patient, and forcibly removing him from his assistive device on prime time television. I felt intimidated by what I saw, and immediately became concerned for myself, and my family.

    I am embarrassed for our City, and all those involved; I believe we the people deserve a public apology from Bonnie Dumanis for her insensitivity, and the possible discriminatory language when describing how patients can just “walk right in” and get a doctors recommendation.”

    I believe it was in bad taste; I believe we maybe heading down a dangerous road when we create the imagery that people that are walking and talking cannot be disabled.

    I know people that are walking, talking, and manage incredibly difficult physical and mental conditions.

    We tend to see snap shots of peoples lives, and immediately we think we have them figured out.

    It is my understanding that our elected officials have a fiduciary duty to protect and serve the citizens of San Diego, all of the citizens; even if they do not agree with them.

    I am asking that Bonnie Dumanis apologize to the disabled population of San Diego; also, I am asking that she address the general public, and seek to diminish the fear that people may have of their neighbors that use marijuana for medical purposes.

  61. September 11, 2009 - 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

    any word on verdict on the owners of despencery

  62. September 11, 2009 - 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

    can i grow with out loosing hair and what if the police come to my house do i show them my licence and they go away?

  63. haha permalink
    September 11, 2009 - 11:15 pm 11:15 pm

    hahaha i agree with funnystuff. im glad you guys got raided. stop using marijuana as an excuse for medical reasons. move to a fucking country where they have marijuana legalized and shut the fuck up. damn bitches.

    • Inflorescence permalink
      September 12, 2009 - 12:22 am 12:22 am

      ^What does that even mean?

      In case you’ve been living under a rock for the last 13 years, CA has a LAW on the books that says MJ can indeed be used legally as a medicine.

      Why wouldn’t I add MJ to the arsenal of drugs to treat my condition?

      To not do so would be limiting my healing options.

  64. September 11, 2009 - 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

    LOL…wow very nice comment..Go to a country were its legel?????.DID YOU KNOW IT WAS LEGAL in this country (USA) TILL 72 years AGO (Incase youi didnt know the country is over 200 years old and Cannabis/Marijuana was in many old medicines…VERY FUNNY…Some of you really do live in a little box with no windows huh?…I am amazed at some of the ignorance and your proud to write it up for the world to see that your just so uneducated that you dont even realize your an idiot…….PLEASE READ “The Emperor Wears No Clothe’s” By Jack Herer my friend…..Then you will realize its not your fault you appear to be uh well just an idiot its cuz you have been lied to by those who have taught you and they were lied to and this book brings forth the truth..DID YOU KNOW CANNABIS or (HEMP OIL) CURES CANCER and I bet all this is why you sit and drink your beer which kills Millions and POT/Marijuana/Ganja/Reefer in 10.000 Years has Killed 0 yes thats right SMOKING POT HAS KILLED 0 PEOPLE IN the entire time of recorded history…..Please don’t choose to be ignorant cuz here’s your chance to learn the truth and then you will want to share it with others as well..YES CANNABIS SAVES LIVES! research before you speak my friend cus you really look SUPER DUMB (And you can scare others away from something that might save there life) on that last comment, but all moments pass and so has this one, NOW (Which TRULY is always the most important moment for the only time you can actually do anything and make a difference is NOW) hopefully you see the light of wisdom knowledge and how it is power!

    “One Love”

    May you be blessed with the power to Help heal the world by spreading positive energy instead of the negative VENOM you seem to spit….But know you are still loved like all other POWERFUL PARTICLES of the Universe!~

    Hemp the Planet Free The weed!

    watch Cannabis Planet TV

  65. Joe permalink
    September 12, 2009 - 10:36 am 10:36 am

    United States Government Pot Patent until the year 2021!

    I thought, “marijuana has no medical value.”

    http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507/description.html

  66. Postmaster permalink
    September 12, 2009 - 11:27 am 11:27 am

    All I can say is that this issue is affecting everyone. after the raids in SD on Tues, they raided more clubs in LA county. I ened up in OC yesterday to vend, due to not being able to down here for right now, and they were worried too. They were talking about maybe not even staying open, close the doors for the weekend, and not taking new patients. This is absolutley insane.

    Also a side note… to me it was easier to keep my company legit having clients close by. Having several viable options to vend to, and having them be legit, helped me be legit. I will remain legit, but I fear that having to travel North for others may cause other illegitamate issues to arise. People are going to be vending up their now, and it is going to cost mor to do that, take more time to do that, and most likely double, at least, the overhead with things like gas, food, lodging, etc. we shall see I guess.

    One other thought to the ppl that think they know a thing or 2 about these clubs. Most of them had a donation of around 380 for an ounce. seems steep…i bet…now add up lawyers bills, and overhead you dont even know about. I know that it was loosley stated that SDDC raked in ~$700k in profit. I would assume that isnt including any overhead, much less donations that were given. As seen with the way Bonnie is conducting herself with this issue, and the way she is directing everyone else during the unfolding of it, i wouldnt be the least bit suprised if 99% of the info about her justification is 1 sided and doesnt clearly protray what the actual case is.

  67. September 12, 2009 - 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

    DISABLED? My friend, “Walk a mile in a person’s shoes,” before passing judgement. Most everyone who has sought treatment for depression or any other mental/emotional issue is aware treatment is most often drugs with warnings they may make one suicidal. These medications are standard!!! Many MJ Patients with these issues could write a book on these medicines.
    Prozac and seroquel would be illegal if we could grow them in our backyard and they practically give them away free- YET $400-600 a month is the price we are paying for our medicine of choice. Follow the enlightened countries lead, whoops who is running OUR country anyway, They do not appear to be Americans as I define patriots. Look at the network of docs and pharmaceutical companies- How do they deserve respect?

  68. September 13, 2009 - 9:21 am 9:21 am

    to the ha ha guy we can tell you have no frends and you sit at home and play with your dick

    • Anonymous permalink
      September 13, 2009 - 10:31 am 10:31 am

      I was kinda under the impression “Ha-Ha” has no dick to play with in the first place.

  69. chris permalink
    September 18, 2009 - 9:33 am 9:33 am

    People are trying to take advantage of the shops. Do we really need 50 shops? Idiot’s like these are going to ruin it for everybody. They just do what they want and charge outrageous prices. LAME! Then people say “This is government weed” BULLSHIT! Some idiot grew it with too much Phosphorous. All the strains taste the same.
    I just hope all this doesn’t mess up the legalization of MJ.
    I would much rather see the shops go down than loose our votes for legalization of MJ. If these shops were legal then why do they keep getting busted. It seems to me it is just another clown trying to rip off some more bud smokers.
    WHY PUT YOUR NAME ON PAPER SO THEY CAN COME GET YOU.

    • Inflorescence permalink
      September 18, 2009 - 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

      I agree, prop 215 is way more important than ANY shop.

      if it means they all have to burn to save the integrity of prop 215 then so be it.

      Why don’t the shops go back to slinging hard dope?

      Oh, that’s right, the cartels, cocaine, and tweekers don’t have a prop 215 on their side!

  70. September 18, 2009 - 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

    chris, everyone is on paper one way or the other. think about it there are more patients then jail cells . I hope this does not go up in smoke eather.

  71. Marc permalink
    September 25, 2009 - 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

    Take the proper steps to open a legitamte dispensery and there are no issues!!! They found guns and shit at some of these raids!?! Guns??….LOL..What the hell people?? Let’s fuck this up before it really gets out of the gate. Its the greed thats going to screw this up for all of us. Like I said…..use the proper channels, get the permits, follow the guidelines and we have a strong chance to grow and cultivate this opportunity…

  72. medical MJ case pending permalink
    September 25, 2009 - 10:14 pm 10:14 pm

    there’s a lot of misinformation going around on this issue..let me clear the air and bring real facts to this discussion because it truly saddens me when i see how uninformed the public is!..first point i’d like to make is that the DA is not making the distinction between revenue and profit..of course there’s going to be revenue coming from medical MJ sales..there’s a big difference between revenue and profit..there is plenty of overhead associated with any business..a collective/co-op is no different..what’s not being talked about is the sales tax that’s generated by this revenue..sales tax can be paid on a quarterly basis..the collective i was associated with had already paid their last quarter sales tax..the raids came before the deadline for the next quarter..then they seize money and meds in an effort to show an accumulation of profit, when it was nothing more than an accumulation of revenue..our collective didn’t have an opportunity to pay the next quarter’s sales tax because now all the money has been seized!..for her (dumanis) to say that all the collectives are operating for profit just isn’t true..why would people set up a collective/co-op, already knowing they’re involved in a controversial business, and blatantly break laws and act as a drug-dealing 7/11 for profit?..i know you people don’t really buy this argument..that would be suicide!..i can understand legal action if, after a period of a year or so, the sales tax numbers didn’t add up..but most of the collectives/co-ops had only been open a few months..i was one of the people who sat in jail over this..they sent in undercover cops (who lied to a doctor to get a recommendation) the day after they lost the supreme court case..these undercover cops came in and filled out all the legal paperwork to join the collective, bought meds and left, then came back again in a month to buy, and built their case from there, not alleging that protocol wasn’t followed, rather stating simply that there was medical MJ being sold (which is against federal law)..for state cops to conduct a sting in this manner when the collective/co-op was following the state guidelines is beyond my comprehension..it’s not as if the police asked to see legal paperwork and arrested people after this request was not met..they acted pro-actively as if every collective/co-op was in violation of the law before giving due process..for everyone leaving comments on here like they know what they’re talking about, you are truly ignorant..it is the mark of a truly unintelligent person to speak on an issue like you know what you’re talking about when you are not informed on the facts..that’s the same way the DA and the other authorities involved in this case talk about the collectives/co-ops..they came and raided, they did not give 48hrs advance to produce paperwork..we wish this would have happened we would have been more than happy to show our legal documents, including our articles of incorporation with the secretary of state showing our non-profit status..we would have welcomed them in with welcome arms just to get the opportunity to show our compliance..this was a politically-motivated strong arm raid..why would the city spend tax payer money putting people in jail who were following the state guidelines, only, in effect, putting that marijuana back on the streets, in the hands of the actual drug dealers?..and now the sales tax from medical MJ goes out the window..for the DEA to get invloved after the President’s and attorney general’s comments is truly un-American..give the citizens the opportunity to show their compliance with the laws before throwing them in jail..isn’t the mantra of our legal system “innocent until proven guilty”?..and what about “to protect and serve”?..i see that painted on every police car in the city, but the citizens rights were neither protected nor served!..every American should be concerned about this type of behavior from law enforcment!..this is an outrage!!!!!!!!!!1

  73. Inflorescence permalink
    September 26, 2009 - 1:02 am 1:02 am

    whah

    get over yourself

  74. Marc permalink
    September 26, 2009 - 10:27 am 10:27 am

    Wow..that was umm one hell of a mouthfull../head explodes.
    Look!! are you new to the process? is this your first time in this country? What, did you think the cops were all just going to go away and leave this issue alone. It does not matter what is leagel or what is right. You have to be very niave to think this was not going to happen. Hey guess what? It will happen again and again. Is it right? No!! but when the hell did right have to do with anything when it come to good goverment bullshit. I love it!! “oh its not fair”
    Wow my friend where the hell have you been? Put the bong down and look around you. The system has never been fair or used properly. Did you think just because an issue that YOU finally can get behind was going to be treated with fairness..sorry we woke you from your slumber.

  75. September 26, 2009 - 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

    “They grow away from the earth
    they grow away from the sun
    then they grow away from the plants and animals.
    They see no life.
    When they look they see only objects.”
    from CEREMONY by Leslie Marmon Silko

    “if they didn’t laugh at the Tao
    it wouldn’t be the Tao.”
    Heal ourselves, first.

  76. medical MJ case pending permalink
    September 26, 2009 - 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

    more ignorance..yes we actually thought if we ran things by the book we would be ok..it’s not naive to believe that san diego could fall in line with other cities in the state..it’s about to be 2010..if this was oakland or LA we wouldn’t have had these problems..this is an example of why people laugh at san diego politics..san diego is stuck in its right wing conservative philosophies..the city could regulate co-ops and draft ordinances and impose a  2% city tax as oakland does, and charge 30k a year for business licenses, making co-ops a productive part of the city economy..marijuana is not going anywhere..it will never be eradicated off the face of the earth..maybe the city government would rather keep marijuana in the hands of the cartels and other criminals..they would rather kick and stomp and drag their feet, spend money they don’t have on prosecution and oppose the state laws because they can’t think outside the box..it’s like a bunch of spoiled children that don’t want to turn off sponge bob and do their homework..it’s cool i understand there are still people who believe the earth is 5000 years old..the US is not the empire we used to be..unless we can think in new ways and get creative, we will succumb to the other nations who are licking their chops waiting for us to fall..this issue is bigger than me and the co-ops..this is a demonstration of the contradictions and hypocrisies of our goverment, which will eventually lead to our downfall..obviously neither inflorescence nor marc are exposed to marijuana..there were alot of good, honest people both working at the co-ops and receiving medicine as well..there were alot of jobs created by the co-ops and families being fed..you both probably think marijuana is the devil and that everyone involved is just a bunch of lazy hippies that sit around and smoke all day..lol you guys are too much..

  77. Inflorescence permalink
    September 27, 2009 - 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

    “you both probably think marijuana is the devil and that everyone involved is just a bunch of lazy hippies that sit around and smoke all day..lol you guys are too much..”

    Nah, I think this is about ruthless businessmen who think lazy stoners are an easy target and who can sell them $60/1/8 th’s.

    • medical MJ case pending permalink
      September 28, 2009 - 10:48 am 10:48 am

      inflorescence that’s all you can gather from the situation?..”ruthless businessmen” preying on “lazy stoners”?..you’re a genius!..i never saw any lazy stoners in the co-op..anybody that goes to a doctor to get their doctor’s recommendation for medical MJ is not lazy and if they can afford $120 for an appointment they can probably afford $60 for an 1/8 of meds..also, there were meds from $35-60 an 1/8 so the choice is left with the patient..i can’t speak for other co-ops but where i worked the $60 was well worth it..considering the fact the patient can choose from a wide variety of meds, in a safe environment, patients never complained and were happy to pay $60..also considering the overhead and risk associated with the business, as well as the sales tax that our co-op ate on every purchase, a small added charge should be expected and paid gladly..

      • Inflorescence permalink
        September 28, 2009 - 8:53 pm 8:53 pm

        spoken like a true ruthless greedy businessman.

        At least you’re honest and willing to admit it. lol

        MOST patients have a hard time coming up with $120 for a rec but that’s just insurance for the year so it’s worth it (get out of jail free card, remember monopoly? lol).

        Way cheaper then a lawyer should the need arise.

        Your the one who is sick if you think patients should pay anywhere near $60/1/8 th. You do realize they have other health bills on top of that.

        As far as tax, you’re really just selling for $55/ 1/8 th which is pretty much just as bad as $60.

        You don’t eat nothin, you profit.

  78. medical MJ case pending permalink
    September 28, 2009 - 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

    you missed the part where the 1/8’s range from $35-60..also patients could purchase meds by the gram..the co-op i worked at also routinely gave free medication to terminally ill patients..other medication was available in $10 increments for all patients..

  79. October 12, 2009 - 10:49 am 10:49 am

    this country is still pushing this unconstitutional war on marijuana. the last time a government pushed hemp farmers there was an uprising and we fought back! Our fore fathers would be sick to their stomachs if they could see what we as Americans have allowed our selves to fall victim to! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! It’s time to stop being pushed around by a bunch of suits just because its not benefiting their bank accounts. Join us for Operation: DAY WITHOUT A STONER! get more information at http://www.myspace.com/cannafreedom
    Together We Have The Power To Make This Country Stop!

  80. WTF permalink
    October 28, 2009 - 10:20 am 10:20 am

    What a waste of our tax dollars. Good grief, SD law enforcement are an embarrassment to any thinking person.

    Too bad the crooks with a vested interest in the present system can enlist the support of the mindless religious right and prevent a pragmatic approach to pot use.

    What a county, what a country, the sooner the religious whack jobs are relegated to the political dustbin the better for civilized society.

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