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Anti-Obama demonstrator sexually harasses post office customer in Carlsbad

March 29, 2010 - 2:46 pm

Today, just after noon, a man who was distributing literature in front of the post office in Carlsbad, and displaying large images of President Obama, harrassed a woman.

"Obama is worse than Hitler," says the man in the white shirt.

A female co-worker of mine was leaving the post office, located at 2772 Roosevelt St., when the demonstrator, one of two 20-something white males, asked her to sign the petition. She refused and kept walking. The man, wearing a white shirt, hat and sunglasses, yelled that she “just wanted to see Obama naked.”

After the incident, I went with another co-worker to confront the man. We refused to sign their petition or take their literature.

The man who had earlier harassed my co-worker said that we were “in love with Obama” and that he was “just like Bush” because they both “have big ears.”

The harasser, after taking a photograph of me.

He also claimed that we are “blocked dupes of the New World Order.”

He further contended that “Obama is worse than Hitler.”

When I told him that I was a Jew with relatives who died in the Holocaust, and that I found his rhetoric particularly offensive, he claimed that Holocaust survivors and Jews have told him that they agree Obama is just like Hitler, and that his organization—supporters of ex-convict and alleged cult leader and anti-Semite Lyndon LaRouche—has many Jewish leaders, but when pressed to name any of them or provide evidence that Jews support LaRouche, he refused. He said it would be “stupid” to provide evidence and insisted that I “go away” and “go back to Facebook and Twitter.”

He also refused to give me his name but did say that he was from Los Angeles.

When reminded that he had sexually harassed our co-worker and owed her an apology, he ignored us and told us to go away.

The Harasser and the Birther, parking-lot frenemies.

At that point, as if on cue, a birther arrived.

A middle-aged woman with a clipboard approached and stood between us and the LaRoucheites and asked us to sign her petition to impeach the president since he was not really a U.S. citizen.

When we laughed, she called us “liberal assholes.”

She then asked the LaRoucheites to sign her petition, but they refused, and she walked away.

At that moment, a man leaving the post office parking lot in a minivan rolled down his window and asked the LaRoucheites, incredulously: “You think the president is like Hitler, who murdered 6 million Jews?” He drove off without waiting for an answer, but added, “You’re fucking idiots!” as he pulled out onto Roosevelt Street.

Then we went back to work.

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7 Comments leave one →
  1. March 29, 2010 - 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

    DA, great post! Thanks.

    As I’m sure you are expecting, I do have one point of disagreement to make…

    What the petitioner said to the woman does not constitute sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is about creating a hostile work atmosphere.

    According to The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, sexual harassment is defined as, “Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature. . . when submission to or rejection of this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual’s employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual’s work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment.”

    Not only was this not an employment situation, but it was one comment. In order for it to qualify as sexual harassment, there must be repeated, offensive comments or actions, typically made by a superior, or, more than just one employee, to create an overall hostile work environment. One offhanded comment about nakedness does not even come close. Of course, it’s a rude, and stupid comment but, thankfully, not illegal; just as the Obama / Hitler comments are stupid, rude, and legal. I for one am grateful we still live in a country where rudeness isn’t a crime cuz if it were, the both of us woulda been locked up a long time ago.

    Peace brother, thanks for posting

  2. d.a. kolodenko permalink
    March 29, 2010 - 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

    Ed, I completely agree with your definition of legal sexual harrassment, but that is not the only definition of the term. it is also used pejoratively to denote any harrassing or bullying of a sexual nature, and not only in the workplace. That’s the way I was using the phrase. I in no way implied that those creeps were doing anything illegal.

  3. d.a. kolodenko permalink
    March 29, 2010 - 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

    I even explicitly wrote that he merely “owed her an apology.”

  4. March 29, 2010 - 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

    Actually, guys, I removed “sexual” from the first reference to harassment. I think the guy’s comment speaks for itself.

  5. March 29, 2010 - 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

    Yeah, i get that. But, not to nitpick, just to, you know, have a go-round or two about it–don’t you think when it’the term is used casually like that, that it diminishes the real claims of sexual harassment, claims that need and deserve our full, undiluted contempt? That’s sorta my point, that people throw that term around a lot, when it’s not really relevant, causing harm to actual victims of sexual harassment, no?

  6. d.a. kolodenko permalink
    March 30, 2010 - 8:36 am 8:36 am

    No, i don’t think it diminishes the term to use it accurately. To sexually harass means, in its basic sense, harassment or bullying with a sexual overtone. It is only in the case of an official workplace claim that the level of harassment becomes an issue for determining whether it is a legal, i.e. “real claim.” It’s somewhat like the use of genocide, for one example. I don’t think it’s problematic to call mass slaughter of people a genocide, but when it becomes codified legal language internationally, it becomes more critical to nitpick over the systematic nature of the killing due to the legal consequences of law regarding genocide.

  7. kgoetz12 permalink
    March 30, 2010 - 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

    The sexual remark is something that a person of low IQ would say because they are too simple to come up with anything intelligent. Sounds like a 5th grader’s taunt to a girl he secretly likes.

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