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San Diego Shows–Monday, March 29

March 29, 2010 - 7:05 am

PLAN A: Field Music, Lualta, Metrofique @ The Casbah. The headliners (above) channel the best parts of the Kinks’ later material, along with healthy doses of post-punk rhythms that sound like Peter Hook was whispering in their ear. And show up early for the Beatle-worshipping folk duo Metrofique. You won’t be disappointed (you can read about one half of Metrofique, Gabe Lehner, here). PLAN B: The Coathangers, Sunday Times, Ronnie No Good and The Young Bloods @ Soda Bar. Nasty little grrrl-punk action from the ATL, The Coathangers have family-friendly gems like “Nestle in My Boobies” and “Shut the Fuck Up,” plus a name that’s an abortion reference. C’mon, you know you’re intrigued (and if you’re really intrigued, you can check out Carissa Casares’ feature on the band). BACKUP PLAN: “Musical Pursuit” @ Whistle Stop. The trivia night returns with Allison Gill guesting for “name that tune” segment. I Would Never Go To: “Overheard and Famous in San Diego” @ Ruby Room. I don’t think this has ever been done in the history of this blog, but I implore you not to do to this party for The Reader’s music columnist and cartoonist, Jay Allen Sanford. Why? Because I’m stridently pro-choice and The Reader sucks.

OTHER COOL STUFF:

Food, Inc. @ Central Library, Downtown. Oscar-nominated doc explains why the phrase “You are what you eat” is pretty disturbing these days.

The Blackout Party @ Riviera Supper Club.

Blood Stained Reality, The Roosters, Ad Seg, Eternal Unborn, Spreading Evictions @ Radio Room.

Lady Dottie & The Diamonds @ U-31.

The Styletones @ Bar Pink.

Field Music photo above by Ian West.

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  1. jayallensanford permalink
    April 4, 2010 - 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

    RE this blurb: “I Would Never Go To: Overheard and Famous in San Diego @ Ruby Room. I don’t think this has ever been done in the history of this blog, but I implore you not to do to this party for The Reader’s music columnist and cartoonist, Jay Allen Sanford. Why? Because I’m stridently pro-choice and The Reader sucks.”

    Firstly, the event was an art gallery-style display featuring the Reader’s comic strip artwork, not a “party” for the cartoonist, aka me (I only attended to bask a bit in the 15-year anniversary celebration).

    Neither comic strip (Overheard in SD and Famous Former Neighbors) has ever floated an agenda RE abortion.

    Likewise, the cartoonist (hi!) has never used the comics, or the Reader, to posit or further an abortion agenda. For the record, since you never asked, I’m pro-choice.

    However, CityBeat DOES allow its columnists to use its publication – and this blog – to push an abortion agenda, as seen in the above quote from this very entry.

    Perhaps the CB columnist who wrote that is too clueless and/or politicized to realize the irony and downright nastiness of such blatant public hypocrisy.

    I point it out so that whoever reads this blog (=tap tap= is this mic on?) can draw their own conclusions as to which publication REALLY hammers an abortion agenda.

    Worth noting is that the Overheard and Famous art show filled up the Ruby Room. On a Monday night. With a concert bill that included a sometime CityBeat contrib (thanks, Bart!) and quite a few other local heroes (some SDMA-lauded), several of whom wrote and performed songs specifically ABOUT those Reader comics (thanks Cathryn, Sven-Erik, Happy Ron, and Hans ‘N’ Fritz).

    Have any locals created a “Last Blog on Earth” theme song yet??

    And what exactly does my publisher’s reported POV regarding abortion have to do with my two silly little comic strips? Or with the Reader itself, for that matter, since the paper does not (to my knowledge) request or expect contribs to back up the publisher’s personal opinions?

    Really, good CB people, it’s time to retire this “Reader Sux” campaigning, to instead let your publication stand or fall on its own merits, of which there are many (such as Mr. Rolland’s above “Call of Duty” and Mr. Maass’ “So Bad It’s Good” entries). There’s plenty of room for both worthy publications ‘round town —

    You folks at CB still seem to think of yourselves as the rebel new-kid Davids, squaring off against the mighty Reader Goliath. But it’s time to grow up and get over yourselves.

    Instead, I humbly suggest that you work on making a better – and more ethically balanced – newspaper. One that doesn’t allow a lesser contrib to publicly grind a personal axe against another paper’s reporter known to call him out on his mean-spirited bluster, bullsh-t, and lack of journalistic integrity.

    Maybe start by working on the little stuff, like getting the day and date correct (Tuesday was March 30th, not March 29th – sheesh).

    Happy Easter, all!!

  2. refriedgringo permalink
    April 5, 2010 - 12:51 am 12:51 am

    Amazing. Combs, when you learn how to write, you’re going to be dangerous. Until then, you know, keep on with the weed whacker, it’s your only hope against the evil Reader. Does Kelly gather y’all around the conference room table and assign this, or are you taking it on yourself to “compete” by trying to drag your competition through some sort of perceived manure? Just curious as to the process there.

    Can we talk about abortion? That really would be topical in a blog that is supposed to represent “San Diego Shows”, I mean, when I look for meaningful discussions on the abortion issue, it’s the first place I look. So. You are “pro” abortion. I’m not. I think it’s a bad idea unless some big giant fuck-off medical emergency dictates that a fetus needs to be removed or else mom is going to die. And even then, I’m not so sure.

    But you know what? It doesn’t matter. I’m a man, I can’t have kids, it isn’t up to me. And, unless you’re hiding something, you’re also a male, right? So, that opinion means shit, absolutely nothing, because neither of us truly deserve to even have an opinion on it. If you tout your righteous posit on abortion, as a male, you are better off putting glitter in your eyeliner. It’s glitter, dude. Become a vegetarian, it isn’t gender-sensitive. But continue to bash the Reader, it’s your only hope as a writer to make something of yourself. And tell Dave Maass I said hello, I know he has a crush on me, I hate to disappoint him by not mentioning his name.

    I’m going to be sad when SD City Beat goes bye-bye, because I love competition, it makes for a better product. But y’all just keep writing yourselves out of a job. It’s sad, Seth. Truly, sad.

    • April 5, 2010 - 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

      Man…why do you gotta bring me into this? If I hadn’t been on deadline, I could’ve seen myself at the JAS show, even if it was only to buy a copy of the Fat Seth comic.

      • refriedgringo permalink
        April 5, 2010 - 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

        Geez, give the man some props and he complains!

        • April 6, 2010 - 10:17 am 10:17 am

          Props? Where?

          • refriedgringo permalink
            April 6, 2010 - 11:27 am 11:27 am

            The mention of your name, dude. If I tweeted it you’d be famous 😉

  3. Seth Combs permalink
    April 5, 2010 - 11:30 am 11:30 am

    Nah, I think I’ll just keep fucking with you guys.

  4. refriedgringo permalink
    April 5, 2010 - 11:59 am 11:59 am

    Nice thought, but that doesn’t pay your bills.

  5. Seth Combs permalink
    April 5, 2010 - 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

    Don’t care if it does. The thing you don’t get about me is that even if CityBeat were in financial trouble (which it’s not), I’d rather go down with a sinking ship than ever collect a check from your boss.

    • jayallensanford permalink
      April 5, 2010 - 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

      Seth says “I’d rather go down with a sinking ship than ever collect a check from your boss.”

      That’s your (pro)choice (as if my boss would ever OFFER you a check), but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand, which is your clumsy and ethically challenged attempt to politicize a mere cartoon display. I’m proud and protective of my comic strip work (it’s arguably the only thing I do consistently well), and I resent both your pointless mudslinging and your employers’ willingness to allow such chicanery.

      Seth also says “Nah, I think I’ll just keep fucking with you guys.”

      If your nonsensical boycott plea was posted merely as bait, intended to provoke my response on this blog, then yeah I swallowed the hook.

      But you’re the one left stinking like bait —

    • refriedgringo permalink
      April 5, 2010 - 11:24 pm 11:24 pm

      Seth, don’t you think it’s sort of ridiculous to only identify with, associate with, work with, etc., people who completely share your exact ideology? That really only works in communist countries, where everyone is told precisely what their ideologies need to be. This is part of the problem with SD City Beat in particular, you seem to be quite happy limiting your audience to those folks who embrace whatever political or social agendas you embrace.

      And I never claimed that SD City Beat was in financial trouble, it just isn’t making any money. I already outlined this in one of Maass’s blog entries, but you folks need to concentrate on writing if you want a broad readership. Sometimes I listen to Bono go on and on about some Goddamned cause, and out loud I find myself telling him to just shut the fuck up and play some music.

      I often find myself rooting for you guys, but I don’t think you’re getting it. Most of the writers who do columns over at the Reader are pro-choice, the owner doesn’t tell them what to write. And they’re smart enough to not give a rat’s ass about the personal ideologies of the owner. And he’s smart enough to let them do what they do. And they’re profitable, even in this shitty economy when many other publications aren’t. We write to get paid, Seth, and we only get paid when we turn a profit for who we write for.

      • April 6, 2010 - 10:24 am 10:24 am

        “You seem to be quite happy limiting your audience to those folks who embrace whatever political or social agendas you embrace.”

        I disagree. If you look at least at my recent reporting, I think the issues and reporting often transcend partisan ideology. That’s a conscious effort on my part. For example:

        Issa on the Prize (An open-minded look at a Republican congressman’s health care proposals)
        http://sdcitybeat.com/cms/story/detail/issa_on_the_prize/8982/

        Trading the Blame (A piece about Republican and Democratic legislators holding state pensions accountable for ignoring Sudan/Iran divestment laws)
        http://sdcitybeat.com/cms/story/detail/trading_the_blame/8943/

        Further, my recent stories on sewage spills, unclaimed property, the Balboa Parks museums, and payroll shortchanging Naval personnel don’t have any particular partisan ax to grind and, at least based on feedback, are reaching a wider audience. .

        Our new elections column, “Turds & Blossoms,” as another example, has been receiving compliments from conservatives such as SDRostra’s Barry Jantz, non-partisan groups like the San Diego County Taxpayers Association, as well as liberals (though several are annoyed at the “turds” we’ve flung at progressive candidates).

        Of course, we do cover certain issues the others wouldn’t touch: Like gay porn, but the gays do like us a lot more than the Reader for obvious reasons.

  6. refriedgringo permalink
    April 6, 2010 - 11:33 am 11:33 am

    “Like gay porn, but the gays do like us a lot more than the Reader for obvious reasons.”

    Perfect example. Gays like SD City Beat because they write about gay porn? Dave, you’re not a bad writer at all, but I have to question what you see as interesting to the community in general. I’m pretty sure that gays read similarly to straight people, they simply like good stuff to read. Come on, man, let’s notch this wrench up, make it real. Gays and straights don’t read different stuff, perhaps they interpret it differently, but words is words man.

    • April 6, 2010 - 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

      Well, first off, apparently our Corbin Fisher story was of great interest across the country, but also in Hillcrest where their offices are located.

      That isn’t the only reason the LGBT community seems to dig us more than the Reader. Part of it is the support our paper has taken on the issue of marriage equality–not just editorial, but the paper as a whole. Part of it is just that we’re closer to Hillcrest and seem to report more on the area than say the outlying regions of San Diego proper (this may not be a good thing, though). Part of it is that many associate the Reader with Holman’s agenda, despite the validity of your arguments.

      • refriedgringo permalink
        April 6, 2010 - 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

        Dave, the Gay & Lesbian Times does an outstanding job of representing the GLBT community, it’s a fine publication. The Reader seems to be interested in representing everyone, not just pro-choice or GLBT. I’ve read several articles in the Reader that relate to GLBT topics in particular, but they weren’t catered to, it seemed fair from the outside looking in, so to speak. In fact, the vast majority of staffers at the Reader are not only pro-choice but also vocally support GLBT equality including the right to marry.

        So far as Holman goes, lately, any arguments concerning his “agenda” seem to be coming from this blog. Even the U-T seems to have given up attempts at dragging his reputation through the mud. Read this statement by Combs:

        “I don’t think this has ever been done in the history of this blog, but I implore you not to do to this party for The Reader’s music columnist and cartoonist, Jay Allen Sanford. Why? Because I’m stridently pro-choice and The Reader sucks.”

        You can take your choice as to the appropriate reason Combs wrote this statement.

        A) A desperate attempt to be relevant opposite one of the largest published weeklies in the U.S.

        B) Lack of appropriate material.

        C) The author has yet to mature as a writer.

        D) All of the above.

        • Seth Combs permalink
          April 7, 2010 - 12:53 am 12:53 am

          E. I hate The Reader, most of it’s writers and I love nothing more than to take the piss out of you.

          • refriedgringo permalink
            April 7, 2010 - 2:51 am 2:51 am

            “E. I hate The Reader, most of it’s writers and I love nothing more than to take the piss out of you.”

            I’m sure that looks impressive on a resume, Seth. The “its” is possessive, no need for the apostrophe, and all of that hating and loving leaves you sounding less and less professional. I’m going with “D”, and my best guess is so does everyone else.

        • April 7, 2010 - 7:17 am 7:17 am

          RG –

          Seth is his own writer and he can say what he likes. I don’t think it hurts him much. I mean, as livid as you are, it’s not like we’ve lost you as a reader. In fact, we only seem to hear from you when someone takes a dig at the Reader.

          Re: Reader, please link to “several articles in the Reader that relate to GLBT topics.”

          Re: GLT Times. They do OK, but I don’t see how that makes our reporting redundant.

          With the exception of a few writers and the occasional news break, I do think the Reader is one big wasted opportunity. That many pages, that much funding–there’s no reason they couldn’t be producing top notch investigative journalism and long-form essays by award winning writers. I think that’s how they used to be, but they’re certainly not that anymore. Part of that is the decision to go with so many “stringers” — which, conceptually I think is an innovative idea, even if the execution hasn’t been particularly impressive. Losing Josh Board was a smart move.

          But I’ll tell you something that irks me–and this is more for discussion than argument purposes. Holman also runs California Catholic Daily News. I’d waiting quite some time for the site to address the current sex-abuse scandals. If all you were reading was CDN, you wouldn’t have any clue any kind of scandal was going –until today, in which they ran a piece attempting to discredit the MSM’s reporting.

          • refriedgringo permalink
            April 7, 2010 - 8:21 am 8:21 am

            Dave, I’m not at all livid, it seems that the bloggers on this site are livid, they have this big hard-on for Holman. You guys are free to dig away at Holman, and I’ll get an email about it and comment on it, it’s the internet and this is what happens.

            First, on the Reader, if I had lots of time on my hands I would certainly provide links for you, but really, this is something you can do on your own as time permits. I promise you the content is in there. Go backwards about five years, you’ll find a few articles, probably about right for the demographic make-up of gays to straights. I don’t think that your reporting is redundant, I simply question why you target a specific readership rather than to broaden your scope. Republicans should be able to open your publication and find something to enjoy, even anti-abortion types should be able to do that.

            There are some good writers working for the Reader and some that are mediocre, it’s that way everywhere. I think that the success of the Reader has been its quirkyness over the years. Rank amateurs write some of the cover stories! And yes, some of the stringers aren’t so swell when it comes to reporting either, but boy that sure does break up the monotonous witch hunts for corrupt politicians, don’t you think?

            Could the Reader be better? No doubt. I’m sure they are working on it as I write this.

            Regarding Holman’s Catholic publication, I’m curious as to why you believe that the Catholic Church owes the world an apology (or even a story) based on the actions (alleged, though I’m sure that there is some truth to it) of some priests. Catholics read Catholic literature that defends their point of view, I don’t think that Holman owes anyone some sort of scanalous story about it. In other words, I have yet to read an explanation from the Catholic church about ignoring the murders of six million Jews during the holocaust, I don’t hear anyone screaming about that. I don’t expect an apology from the Catholic church about it, either, it can’t be fixed that way.

            No religions are innocent.

            If you demonize Holman, then you have to demonize everyone. Whites enslaved blacks not that long ago, and my best guess is that Holman had as little to do with the sex-abuse scandal as I did with slavery. Yet, I’m guilty by association, right? With my tongue planted firmly in my cheek, I’ll admit that some of my best friends are Catholic. I am not, for reasons of my own. They’re just people, Dave, there isn’t anything any more wrong with Catholicism than with any other religion.

            I don’t much care what your religion is, nor how you vote, and the best that a writer can do is to make sure that such personal beliefs are kept sacred and seperate from the content. Bottom line, the Reader does this. With CCDN, it’s a different story, because it’s a publication DESIGNED to go after a certain demographic. In doing so, they have an obligation to their readership to portray the religion in the best light. It goes a little beyond whether I agree with the ideology, but it helps to understand that the point is to present that ideology as positively as possible.

            Coming full circle, if SD City Beat is not designed to appeal toward a certain demographic, but to all San Diegans, irrespective of their personal ideologies, then I wouldn’t show up every once in a while to give you guys a hard time, because you’d be singing my tune. The problem is this: If you expect the Catholics to turn on each other because of this scandal, and if you decide to write about it negatively, then you’re likely alienating 24% of your potential readership. Maybe SD City Beat could get away with that. But make no mistake that CCDN wouldn’t survive if it took that path.

          • April 7, 2010 - 8:29 am 8:29 am

            “In doing so, they have an obligation to their readership to portray the religion in the best light.”

            I disagree. If the goal is to publish news for Catholics, then they have a responsibility to report on the biggest issue currently on the minds of many Catholics in a fair way. For example, here’s other Catholic sites are covering it closely:

            http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1001401.htm
            http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/brazilian_cardinal_church_does_not_deny_or_cover_up_abuse/
            http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=5940

            I mean, the gay papers hold its community members responsible when scandals emerge (see recent Pride board stories). There’s no reason, Holman’s magazine couldn’t do the same, responsibly, while still holding true to Catholic values.

          • refriedgringo permalink
            April 7, 2010 - 8:34 am 8:34 am

            Dave, have you actually read these stories? They all discredit the reporting as well. The only thing they admit is that the Pope is saddened by any problems it has caused. I’m sure that 6 million dead Jews are relieved about that. They’re not going to cut their own throats either, it’s understandable.

          • April 7, 2010 - 8:40 am 8:40 am

            I didn’t read them like that–their coverage reported the Easter news–one of them clearly covers an admission of sexual abuse. In other reports, the other two news organization have reported it somewhat fairly…

            But now that you’ve mentioned the Holocaust, I’m going to cite Godwin’s Law and move onto other discussions.

          • refriedgringo permalink
            April 7, 2010 - 9:03 am 9:03 am

            Lol. Hey, I brought that in comparatively, not pointedly. I could have used the Children’s Crusade, I’m not trying to be an ass. My point is more along the lines that admitting something doesn’t make it any more easy to swallow. Fixing it would be preferred. I have yet to read a comprehensive article on how this is going to be eliminated, if you argued from that side of the court I would have no choice but to agree with you.

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